Start9 use Core lighting or LND? I want to mine at Ocean but need CL?

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Hello all, I been mining from back in the good old days of ETH I’m ready to mine BTC on a node and have 4 small miners ready to mine at Ocean days from setting it up. Then now we have the CL vs LND but can only mine on Ocean with CL now what do I install? Once I get Start9 running I will install Knots then what direction should I go? What app’s do I need installed? I’m use to plugin in at main pools but I like bucking the big guy’s with my own node. I have watched Paul’s set up videos but the CL thing has put a stop to the flow.
Thanks
Wayne

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Wayne,

Why has Core Lightning stopped the work flow? What is it that you need clarification on about Core Lighting? Are your miners SHA 256 ASIC’s?

Once I get Start9 running I will install Knots then what direction should I go?

You need Knots, Datum and CL… all of which are in his setup video. You could also use LND and Ride The Lightning as additional tools. Although currently OCEAN payouts requires Core Lighting LND and RTL can act as additional tools for you to manage liquidity on your lightning channels much more efficiently than Core Lightning. Mempool and electrs are also good to have.

I’m sure Paul will be along to guide you but I thought I’d just ask a few questions for clarity

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On the Start9 OS, you can install both CLN and LND. For mining, you need CLN. If you already have LND, then the setup is fairly simple.

  1. Install CLN
  2. Open a public channel from your LND node to your CLN node
  3. Follow the instructions on Ocean for configuring the Bolt12 Offer

If you do not have LND installed already, then you have a couple of routes. The simplest setup:

  1. Install CLN
  2. Open a public channel with ACINQ for 500,000 sats
  3. Once active, send most of the sats back to cold storage via Boltz.exchange
  4. Follow the instructions on Ocean for configuring the Bolt12 Offer

If you plan to use Lightning in the future for payments as well, then a bit more complicated setup that will be more flexible in the future:

  1. Install LND
  2. Open public channels with various well-connected nodes (a simple one to start with is ACINQ for 500,000 sats)
  3. Move some of the sats back to cold storage via Boltz.exchange (leaving however much outbound you want on Lightning for everyday use)
  4. Install CLN
  5. Open a publich channel from your LND node to your CLN node
  6. Follow the instructions on Ocean for configuring the Bolt12 Offer
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So if I just install Core lighting to use mainly for mining it’s not a real problem running it? I seen u were going to uninstall yours because of problems.

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No, I am not uninstalling it. I am just migrating all of the channels over to LND, leaving the one public channel from LND to CLN. My goal is the third scenario that I outlined above – except I didn’t start there, so it is a lot of work to migrate to that setup versus starting out that way in the first place.

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To explain – the problem with CLN is that it has a routing problem (it is fine for receiving payments, and for sending to nodes you have a channel with, but for routing through multiple nodes it sucks). LND does not have that problem.

What the above setup allows you to do is to accumulate mining rewards, which come in through the channels on your LND node, pass through the channel to your CLN node, and accumulate there. Once the CLN side of that channel starts to fill up, you can simply free up the outbound liquidity again by creating an invoice on your LND node, and paying it to yourself from your CLN node. Rinse and repeat. For everything else lightning, use LND.

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