My math seems extremely flawed. £567.13 a year is nothing…works out to be less than £50.833 with standing and VAT a month.
If energy is that cheap everything else must be through the roof!?
@Fletcher - is that the case?
Not sure what you mean, what is the £567 for?
Everything elase is!
Messed Up My Ocean Payouts
I think I’ve lost my rewards.
I used an Exodus wallet address to identify my miners.
I’ve been trying to claim the rewards via a CLN Bolt12 offer but no joy.
Whilst I control the Exodus wallet, it doesn’t support Bolt12 and is obviously not associated with my CLN BTC wallet.
Are the rewards lost?
No, the lightning node doesn’t need to be directly associated at a protocol level with the Bitcoin address you use for the Ocean account.
This is the reason why Ocean requires a signature when you add your Bolt12 offer for payouts. The signature proves that you hold the keys to the Bitcoin address you used for the account.
Much thanks…
I’ll get back on it. Suspect there’s something I’m not doing right with the offer.
I just realized that you may be struggling with how to sign a message from Exodus wallet. Is that the part you are having trouble with?
I did a little research on this (I don’t use Exodus myself), and it doesn’t look like they have a user interface for signing messages. They do have APIs documented here in their underlying code, but they would require writing your own interface to go with that route.
You may need to take the private keys and move them to another wallet which does support signing. I found this article here on how to get to the seed phrase. I’m assuming since you are using a hot wallet, then you are probably not storing huge amounts here, but do keep in mind that you need to be careful any time you are dealing with a seed phrase.
Sparrow supports signing, so you could set up a hot wallet in Sparrow using the phrase from Exodus. If you are running a Start9 server, then there is a Sparrow service in Community Registry, which would probably be one of the more secure ways to hold a hot wallet. Getting the message in and the signature out is a bit tricky with the Webtop interface it uses (so let me know if you go that route and get stuck figuring out this part)
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Much thanks for the references. I only used the Exodus wallet address as an identifier on Ocean.
I’ve got CLN BTC wallet alongside the a CLN Lightning wallet and have opened a private channel between the CLN node and my LND node.
I’m trying to sign the offer generated from the CLN Lightning wallet via the Ride the Lightning interface for CLN but getting this error message
The format should be : OCEAN Payouts for “your Bitcoin address”
I see you have LND installed. Why not have Ride The Lighting manage LND instead of CLN so you can sign properly from RTL. No need to manage the Core Lightning Node via RTL.
Yes, this is why you must sign the BOLT12 offer with the keys to that Exodus wallet address. Otherwise, any random person could create a BOL12 offer and attach it to any Ocean account and start stealing other people’s rewards. The signature proves that you own the Bitcoin address that you are using as an identifier on Ocean.
So thinking this through… you can move a wallet from one interface to another via the private key and/or seed i.e. from Exodus to my LND, CLN or the likes?
Thanks… I’ll try this now
I do not think CLN or LND have a feature for importing your own seed phrase. A lot of other wallet softwares do. You’d just need one that supports signing a message. Sparrow is a good option. Electrum on Tails OS is another option if you just want to import the seed phrase and sign a message but not keep a second wallet around (since Tails OS erases everything when it shuts down)
I make you right neither feature wallet import. So… I’m going to import the Exodus wallet using the original seed into Sparrow. Then generate an offer from Sparrow but use orginal Exodus address as ref in Ocean.
You generate the offer from CLN. The step where you do the signing is where you would use Sparrow.
- Log in to your OCEAN dashboard and navigate to “My Stats” for your Bitcoin address.
- Click “Configuration” next to “Next Block.”
- Paste your BOLT12 offer into the form (generated from CLN).
- Set block height to “latest”
- Click “GENERATE” and copy the unsigned message
Then in Sparrow (after importing your seed phrase to create a new hot wallet):
- Tools > Sign Message > Paste your Bitcoin address
- Input the unsigned message
- sign the message
- Export signature.
Then back in OCEAN:
- Return to the configuration form.
- Paste the signature.
- Click “CONFIRM.”
Ok… much thanks and here goes!
I did something very similar to this in my Mining Bitcoin at Home video, at around 53:09. Might be worth watching again just to see if you are missing any steps.
The only thing that is different in the above video compared to what you are doing, is that I used an existing hot wallet that I created for demos in Sparrow. In your case, you need to have exported your seed phrase from Exodus (I don’t use Exodus myself, but from a Goolge search it should be Settings > Backup > View Secret Phrase, or from the Profile icon > Settings > etc… on the mobile app).
Then you take that seed phrase you exported from Exodus, and import it into Sparrow (File > Import Wallet > Mnemonic Words (BIP39) > Use 12 Words). Make sure that is the wallet you have open in Sparrow when you do the message signing step, and make sure the Bitcoin address that you use in the signing step is the same one that you are using as your Ocean identity.
Ta again… I’ll give the vid a look and then jump back in